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The Issue with the Male Dog's Registration

8/3/2022

Raven asked some good questions and I am having trouble commenting on my own blog, so I am just going to try to address them in separate posts. If I forget something please let me know.

As to the registration of the male dog I need to explain that a bit. I believe his dog is at least three years old, correct? He states that he hasn't gotten around to registering him yet. You should know that it's customary for breeders to give the new puppy owners a registration application when they buy their pups, or soon after. There is also a form the breeder fills out with the info for each puppy and owner. The breeder send this form in to MSCA and the buyer sends their form in, or some breeders send the puppy application in for their client. As I said, this is usually done at pick up or soon after, not when the dog is 3 years old.

Abby's owner states that he's "working with the MSCA" to get his male registered. The MSCA can't register the dog without the breeder's permission. How do I know this? Because I bought my first Maremma, Olaf, from a MSCA breeder who didn't register the litter. The puppies were eligible for registration, the breeder just didn't want to bother. I did later contact the MSCA to see if they could help me get Olaf registered. They told me that unless the breeder was willing to help me there was nothing they could do. Period. I finally gave up trying to get Olaf registered and bought a registered male dog.

I was told by a very reliable source that the male dog can't be registered because there was something fishy about the parentage on the dog. The daddy ain't the daddy, I was told. But I don't have proof of that.

But the fact is if the breeder of the male dog never gave Abby's owner a registration application there's nothing the MSCA can do. They can't register a litter or a dog without the breeder's permission. And if the breeder had ever given him a registration application he would know it. I do know he reached out to the former BOD member of the MSCA, or actually she reached out to him. I know because she told me. And it appears that, just like I have been saying, she was not able to help him. That person is no longer on the BOD, nor are 4 other BOD members he was "working with". And I'm pretty sure the new board isn't going to be willing or able to help him. Only the breeder can and I haven't seen her weighing in on this subject. But someone could ask him why he didn't receive a registration application when he bought his dog.

This was in March when a BOD member "reached out to him", to help him get his dog registered. So why is it August and the dog is still not registered?

You suck

8/3/2022 06:19:40 am

Who the fuck cares Abby is spayed anyways. They are his fucking dogs give it a rest and leave him alone already. You sound like a deranged peeping Tom.

8/3/2022 06:20:27 am

You suck you suck you suck you suck

Lisa

8/3/2022 02:16:50 pm

Can you anonymous commenters please stop with the hostile threat comments? This is online bullying and extremely harmful
Even as a GSF supporter i cannot stand by this
No argument should result to threats and online bullying

Lavender

8/3/2022 05:14:38 pm

sue him for all he's got, He called you a puppy mill and he's a master minipulator who only cares about views, aka he clickbaited is own videos and now his fans are sending false reviews of your farm >:(

That wont happen

8/4/2022 02:17:09 pm

She isn't gonna win that one. Haha please.

Brunhilda

8/3/2022 08:54:36 pm

Toby is two years old. The breeder gave Morgan the papers on the day he picked Toby up. See 5:05 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SISECmmkJTU&t=542s

I have no idea why he's waited so long to register Toby. If it were me I would have done so immediately, but I do not believe it's because Toby can't be registered. Morgan makes a lot of amateur mistakes but he doesn't tell lies.

Kim

8/4/2022 12:02:51 am

I was told by a former board member of the MSCA that the breeder forged the paperwork on the female dog and so that Toby is not eligible for registration. Now that’s only what I’ve been told and I don’t know if it’s true. And I’m not gonna go watch videos and see what paperwork he received. Because I’m not going to. But if you would like to take a screenshot and show me what that looks like and send it to me I could get an idea of what he was giving. Because obviously I know what registration paperwork looks like. He could’ve been given veterinary records or something like that. But who knows all I know is that normal people don’t take three years to register a dog or even two. And I have been told that is not eligible for Registration.

8/4/2022 05:45:51 am

About that former board member, is he or she willing to come here and explain about Toby's registration issue?

I can't give you a screenshot because Morgan didn't show the papers; he just said that he received them. And just so you know, I gave you the timestamp for the relevant section so you wouldn't have to search through the entire video. That's what the 5:05 meant.

As to whether Toby's registration is the real deal or not, time will tell. I expect Morgan will come out with a video update about it sometime in the next several weeks.

And if it turns out he was mistaken he will admit it because that's how he is. It's one of the many things I like about him. But I won't be surprised if he is correct and Toby can be registered.

8/3/2022 10:05:07 pm

https://youtu.be/oTrb0ROWTQ0

8/4/2022 12:06:29 am

Since you are a fan of his you could ask him to post a photo of the registration paperwork he received from the breeder. When he contacted me he told me he had absolutely no clue how to get the dog registered. So he did not have any paperwork. Other than a Pedegree which he did share with me. But it was not an official MSCA Pedegree. And in fact I still have a photo of that paperwork and it shows the forgery or supposed forgery. I can post that when I get a chance.

I bought my first Maremma from a breeder who did not register the litter. Both parents were registered and owned by the breeder but he for some reason I chose not to register the litter. He also gave me pedigrees on the dog I bought. You were the pedigreeze for the parents. But they were not official registration paperwork. They were not literal registration applications they were not Puppy applications they were not registration certificates. They were simply pieces of paper that showed who the parents were. And I would probably guess that that’s what Morgan has because it’s probably the same piece of paper I saw that he sent to me when he first contacted me to buy a puppy

None of yours

8/4/2022 02:19:38 pm

It is none of your business. Like zero. Why don't you focus more on yourself and less on drama. Sounds like you need to. Comparing this to January 6th. Good Lord

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The Issue with the Male Dog's Registration

This was in March when a BOD member "reached out to him", to help him get his dog registered. So why is it August and the dog is still not registered?

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